i thot i had suceeded in this, but this winter i have concluded Tucson doesn’t cut it. it does get cold here, too cold. so tho i like it here i will probbaly eventually be going further south and lower altitude to get away from the chill. when i say always warm, i mean ALWAYS warm, not warm for 8 months, warm only during the middle of the day for 3 months, and cold all the time for the remaining month. no.